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Published on February 24, 2009 By -Ue_Carbon In Sins Modding

Hey yall,

I wanted to see if I can make some new skyboxes. Can it be done. If so can you start me in the right direction? Thanks alot!!!


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on Feb 24, 2009

I know its been done in some mods, though its been beyond both my graphics editing software and skills to attempt...

on Feb 24, 2009

Skyboxbackdrop2-7.mesh are the mesh files for skyboxes, you can actually make your own if you need to remap them, just remember that the models are supposed to be viewed from inside, so you have to reverse normals, otherwise they won't show.

Skyboxbackdrop textures are the texture files for various  skyboxes. They're in DDS format, so make sure you use 8.8.8.8. variant or your details won't show and the backdrop will be grainy due to DDS compression.

Finally, Skybox[number]environment are the cube map DDS files for various skyboxes. They lend the tint and some illumination to all the objects in game

on Feb 24, 2009

Ok, Im looking at the Skybox_enviroment right now and the SkyboxBackdrop for the coresponding for the same colored backdrop. All I need to do is put what picture/texture into the .dds format like the current ones. I shouldnt need to create a new mesh if I just reuse the a current one?

Also, Im assuming Photoshop is what I need to use to create the .dds.

Im sorry if I asking some rather obvious questions. I have really no expericence doing this, and I dont wanna beg someone to make me new stuff. I rather have someone teach me or learn it myself.

on Feb 24, 2009

Well, since there is no step-by-step info on how Ironclad made their backdrop textures (you will notice they have used a spherical map with cut-off poles to preven texture pinching) I can't really tell you how to make a texture that would fit existing backdrop meshes - I tried various techniques, but could not get rid of seams as none of them were precise enough.

My advice is to create a new skybox mesh and UV-map it yourself. That way you will have the information you need to make precise placement of textures and avoid seams.

The other trick you may want to try if you don't want to make new meshes is to use your new images but adjust the alpha on the edges/seams so that in fact only portions of the skybox texture show, while seams are made transparent. Both ways work fine.

And yeah, Photoshop is the best for texture work.

on Feb 24, 2009

Yes photoshop should be fine. Make sure you have the dds plugin so you can save them out.
Reuse the same meshes and copy the dimensions of an existing skybox. The seams will be difficult, so unless you have a program that allows you to paint directly on a mesh you can cheat and use a solid color in the problem areas (ie. black). Have fun!

on Feb 26, 2009

Ah, well while I waiting to get photoshop. Is there another program I can use to convert .jpg to .dds and vice versa. Or does photoshop do all this with the plugin?

on Feb 27, 2009

You can get a command prompt version of the DDS plugins from Nvidia's website. They're essentially the same thing and they work with all major image formats.

on Mar 09, 2009

Ok, do yall know where I could buy or find a cheap verison of Photoshop. Had one I was going to buy cheap but I wasnt quick enough. Till I get photoshop, this is a dead project.

on Mar 09, 2009

I think there is a free program called GIMP that has similar functionality. Give that one a shot.

on Mar 09, 2009

Thanks Craig!!!!!! Downloaded it and it will work for me!

Now yet another problem, cant get GIMP to open the .dds files. Ive downloaded everything from the Nivida site. Ive even went looking for .dds coverter. Not found one that will work. =/

 

This is really starting to annoy me. I expected working on the texture to be the hard part not set everything up. Sigh.

on Mar 09, 2009

I just did a quick search for DDS and GIMP and stumbled upon this site:

http://eliteforce2.filefront.com/file/DDS_Converter;29412#Download

 I don't approve of, or disapprove of this program. I've never tried it.

on Mar 10, 2009

I used to use (and learned on) Paint shop pro, but when corel took over it took a nose dive in stability and capability so I was 'forced' to invest in Photoshop. How fortunate they fixed all the things I didn't like about Ps by cs3/cs4.

on Mar 28, 2009

Craig Fraser
I just did a quick search for DDS and GIMP and stumbled upon this site:

http://eliteforce2.filefront.com/file/DDS_Converter;29412#Download

 I don't approve of, or disapprove of this program. I've never tried it.

Update: That DDS Converter is broken. LOL, After wresling with this program forever and searching for help high and low. Its broken. Dead. Sigh.

On a related note: Craig does the engine support animated textures?

on Mar 28, 2009

I personally won't use a jpg file as a dds, I would probably go for a higher quality picture, a png even still that might not be high enough

What if I want to use a custom image? Can I change it so it becomes a skybox...

on Mar 29, 2009

Sorry that didnt work out for you Carbon.

The particle effect system supports animated textures. Bascially you will need to align each frame of your animation in rows in one dds or tga file. A separate animation text file define the coordinates of each frame, the number of rows and so on. Many of the particle effects in the game use framed animations.

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